Mix de R+ et R-

Je pensais que c'était un article sur pourquoi ne pas mélanger le R+ et R-, mais en fait je crois qu'elle associe R- à la punition... du coup pour moi c'est pas très logique...
mais j'ai peut être pas tout compris....

http://www.clickertraining.com/node/164

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Behavior that has been trained by correction

Donc on est dans le P+ plus que le R- je pense...

Ne sachant pas trop où poster ma découverte, je le fais sur ce sujet, car le résultat de l'étude n°1 est intéressant quant au mix de R+ et R-.

It Just Clicks ! Positive Reinforcement in Horses by Aoife Stephens

Il s'agit du rapport de projet (en anglais) d'une étudiante irlandaise en sciences du comportement. Je l'ai trouvé intéressant à lire et on peut trouver les vidéos associées aux expériences sur la page dédiée de l'Irish Clicker Centre

merci pour le partage

J'ai lu que la conclusion, mais il me semble qu'elle fait une étude RP VS RN, sa conclusion c'est que le RP "gagne", pas tellement si on peut mixer ou non les deux approche non ?

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6. Conclusions and Recommendations 


 Since my project has proven that clicker training is more effective and more 
efficient than conventional training techniques. I see clicker training having 
massive potential for the future development of horse training in Ireland. 
 Clicker training could have a major impact in resolving the many training issues 
that remain unsolved by other, more conventional training techniques, 
consequently bringing greater enjoyment to many horse owners. 
 Existing education programmes need to be further promoted to bring an improved 
understanding and appreciation of clicker training to the general horse owners of 
Ireland. 
 Clicker training is successful in teaching horses complex behaviours. 
 Further studies are needed to investigate whether horses can use learned 
behaviour to solve problems. 


Significant differences were observed between the use of positive reinforcement and 
negative reinforcement to train a horse. Shaping, or incremental learning by rewarding 
successive approximations of the desired behaviour, is quicker and more effective than 
traditional training techniques, because the horse is actively seeking to learn the desired 
behaviour in order to earn reward. Traditional negative reinforcement only teaches the 
animal to avoid the negative stimulus. In this study a combination of negative and positive 
reinforcement was also effective and more efficient, as the animal was both avoiding a 
negative stimulus and learning the desired behaviour at the same time. 


As described earlier, the present study shows that positive reinforcement is particularly 
effective for nervous or excitable animals. Two such animals were identified by their 
respective owners. The animal in the positive reinforcement group was trained successfully 
in 2:46 minutes. Training of the animal in the negative reinforcement group was abandoned 
after 17 minutes. 


 A significant number of horse owners have training issues or things they would like to be 
able to train their horses. The behaviours mentioned by respondents in Study 2 have all 
been successfully trained using the clicker, as described by Ferguson and Rosales-Ruiz 
(2001) and Kurland (1998). It is proposed that the more widespread understanding and use 
of positive reinforcement techniques among sport and leisure horse owners would result in 
a decrease in these training issues, an increase in the value of the national horse 
population and a more positive experience for both horse and handler

Elle a étudié un groupe pur RP, un pur RN et un mix RP-RN. Dans sa conclusion, elle le mentionne ici :

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In this study a combination of negative and positive
reinforcement was also effective and more efficient, as the animal was both avoiding a
negative stimulus and learning the desired behaviour at the same time.

Le mix RP-RN a été le plus efficace dans son test.